Bad planning? Too much money? Not properly tested?
These are United States soldiers in need. The cost can not be too high and if the first batch fails, do it again, and again, and again, and if one soldier's life is saved, it was not too much.
These arm chair warrior nuts are the same people who would spend a billion dollars saving an endangered bug from being destroyed by construction.
It's from Desert Storm but, these things will never change as long as we're still human beings.
markm
· 2 years ago
I'd be impressed if the MRAP's were delivered quickly. A lot of the time it's not a money problem but a paper trail problem. The govn't is so huge that the left hand rarely talks to the right hand.
electnixon
· 2 years ago
[quote]there are only two steel mills in the U.S. producing the necessary armor. [/quote]
I'm not sure what this information is included for, other than to mislead the reader into thinking that there's either a shortage of armor or it's being purchased through a dreaded "no-bid" contract.
Exactly how many steel mills does the author believe that there are in the US? Nucor and Chapparral are the only big kids left in the rolled carbon steel business, with SD small but growing, and a bunch of micro mills producing alloys.
2Hotel9
· 2 years ago
The very people roadblocking this are the same scumbag Democrats(sorry for the redundancy) who fought tooth&nail through the '80s and '90s to stop our military from accepting for service a dedicated APC/ACC vehicle system. They kept the numbers of Bradleys and Strykers depressed and also restricted body armor development and issue.
All on the grounds that they would make us look to aggressive to our enemies. Fuckbags!!
Lestat
· 2 years ago
Its both a major screw up and par for the course. Why is emergency funding needed? Why can't this be planned?
robert108
· 2 years ago
[quote]Its both a major screw up and par for the course. Why is emergency funding needed? Why can't this be planned?[/quote]
And yet, the lefties want govt-run healthcare.
Ronald Walter
· 2 years ago
The US military is in Iraq to protect Iraqis from becoming like the 'Republicans.'
It is worth every penny spent. Send those MRAP's over there right now.
Anything to protect anybody from 'Republicans.'
Zoe Brain
· 2 years ago
The Bushmaster has been in service with Australian troops in Iraq for some time now. They're now being upgraded with chilled drinking water facilities, that was the only major(!) deficiency reported by troops who used them.
Send over some C-17s and we could let you have a few dozen now, and as many as we can manufacture in future, a dozen a day.
But of course it's NIH.
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald,
Stick to what you know, bozo, whatever that may be. The rest of us know that "what wonald knows" does not extend to military affairs.
Pilgrim
· 2 years ago
[quote]The US military is in Iraq to protect Iraqis from becoming like the ‘Republicans.'
[/quote]
I'd be embarrassed to post a statement this stupid.
Ronald Walter
· 2 years ago
It's purdy obvious that the US military hasn't done much of a job protecting Iraqis from anything else. It is a foregone conclusion that they must be there protecting Iraqis from 'Republicans.' 'Republicans' are there protecting 'Republicans,' that's for sure.
Whatever you say, Wodknee.
Neiman
· 2 years ago
[quote]It's purdy obvious that the US military hasn't done much of a job protecting Iraqis from anything else. It is a foregone conclusion that they must be there protecting Iraqis from ‘Republicans.' ‘Republicans' are there protecting ‘Republicans,' that's for sure.[/quote]
You are in desperate need of a massive dose of Thorazine and institutionalized mental health care. Or, perhaps you might consider backing off that Opium pipe a bit mate, you are killing brain cells and it appears you have very few left.
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald,
A dog would be aghast if:
It's purdy obvious that the US military hasn't done much of a job protecting Iraqis from anything else. It is a foregone conclusion that they must be there protecting Iraqis from ‘Republicans.' ‘Republicans' are there protecting ‘Republicans,' that's for sure.
had passed from it's lips. Jackasses and fools are obviously less discerning than dogs.
Ronald Walter
· 2 years ago
dogs, jackasses and fools. har
Purdy much sums up the 'Republicans.' Rudyard Kipling would say the same of 'Republicans.'
Knaves and fools and complete flippin' idiots. In general, criminals.
From a jackass to a king.
HG
· 2 years ago
RW,
You condemn US military action in Iraq simply because the President who ordered it is a "Republican".
Such irrational and ignorant rhetoric doesn't even come close to deserving refutation. However, your foolishness does qualify you for an a**-chewin'. You would do well to listen to those criticizing you.
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald,
No jackass to king promotions forthcoming, much to your chagrin and the world's benefit. I also note that you remain as ignorant of Kipling as of most (dare we suggest all) other subjects you choose to opine upon here.
WOOF
· 2 years ago
[quote]the military families are at war, and everyone else is out shopping.[/quote]
[quote]According to a Marine Corps document ... the request for over 1,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles came in February, 2005. A formal call to fulfill that order did not emerge until November, 2006. "There is an immediate need for an MRAP vehicle capability to increase survivability and mobility of Marines operating in a hazardous fire area against known threats," the 2005 "universal need statement" notes.[/quote] [url=http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/05/military_dragge.html]Military Dragged Feet on Bomb-Proof Vehicles [/url]
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald,
With allies like poodle, you might as well pack it in now.
Ronald Walter
· 2 years ago
You nitwits have never heard a real a++chewin'
But, I do not want to stop anybody who thinks that they possibly can. Give it a whirl. Not quite, not even close, no, not hardly.
The Democrats are toast; dead in the water. The 'Republicans' are close behind.
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald finally found two subjects he's qualified to speak to:
nitwits
asschewin'
Which explains poodle's admiration and support.
Ronald Walter
· 2 years ago
Wow, you didn't waste anytime on that response, now didja? You qualify for the nitwit award today. Congrats
'Republicans' are used to a lot of ass time on the computers these days.
Hey, I have a good idea: Get a freakin' job, mon.
WOOF
· 2 years ago
If the military lacks equipment , who you gonna blame?
If the military didn't have body, or vehicle armor? If they have inadequate health care?(Walter Reid) Who you gonna blame?
How bout the administration running the war and the country since 2001.
HG
· 2 years ago
Only a fool would glory in his ability to ignore a well deserved a** chewin'. Scorn is no virtue RW. You have concluded you are unworthy of correction and therfore not only a fool, but a hopeless one at that.
HG
· 2 years ago
[quote]If the military lacks equipment , who you gonna blame? [/quote]
There is plenty of blame to go around, but little credit. No credit is due the nay saying, funds witholding, fingerpointing, defeatists of the dimocrat party whose only contribution to this effort is to drag it out long enough to ensure American defeat. On the other hand we can give credit to those who have fought the majority in the both houses to fund this war and the equipment necessary to fight it.
Neiman
· 2 years ago
Woofie: [quote]If the military lacks equipment, who you gonna blame?[/quote]
[b]Ghostbusters![/b]
[quote]If the military didn't have body, or vehicle armor? If they have inadequate health care?(Walter Reid) Who you gonna blame?[/quote]
1. Bush is Commander-In-Chief and the buck stops on his desk. While he is not directly involved in this process he appoints the people that are and his administration promotes necesary legislation to get the job done right. 2. The Democrats had a President in power for eight years before Bush (Billy Jeff), who gutted the military, making it a slingshot military. Thus, Bush inherited an antiquated military. Although, by now Bush should have made all the necessary corrections. 3. Many decades of Congressional law making (both parties) wherein the process from money allocation to delivering equipment in the field or medical services is antiquated, slow and unresponsive. 4. A huge Federal Bureaucracy that is like a million ton tanker try to change direction at sea, it takes so long to turn around by the time they are heading in the right direction it's past time turn again.
I won't excuse Bush, he's not perfect, not is any President; but he is ultimately responsible, when he finds things are going wrong, he is ass-kicker-in-chief and should get things fixed ASAP. However, the Congress, the former President and the other factors mentioned are accesories before, during and after the fact, sharing a large portion of the guilt.
Rodney Graves
· 2 years ago
wonald,
Yet another topic about which you are (at best) ill informed. Perhaps you should limit yourself to:
nitwits
asschewin'
Which will pretty much have you and poodle doing a rhetorical circle jerk.
All Comments
These are United States soldiers in need. The cost can not be too high and if the first batch fails, do it again, and again, and again, and if one soldier's life is saved, it was not too much.
These arm chair warrior nuts are the same people who would spend a billion dollars saving an endangered bug from being destroyed by construction.
Maybe this will help put it in perspective - http://ewebsmith.com/fallen
It's from Desert Storm but, these things will never change as long as we're still human beings.
I'm not sure what this information is included for, other than to mislead the reader into thinking that there's either a shortage of armor or it's being purchased through a dreaded "no-bid" contract.
Exactly how many steel mills does the author believe that there are in the US? Nucor and Chapparral are the only big kids left in the rolled carbon steel business, with SD small but growing, and a bunch of micro mills producing alloys.
All on the grounds that they would make us look to aggressive to our enemies. Fuckbags!!
And yet, the lefties want govt-run healthcare.
It is worth every penny spent. Send those MRAP's over there right now.
Anything to protect anybody from 'Republicans.'
Send over some C-17s and we could let you have a few dozen now, and as many as we can manufacture in future, a dozen a day.
But of course it's NIH.
Stick to what you know, bozo, whatever that may be. The rest of us know that "what wonald knows" does not extend to military affairs.
[/quote]
I'd be embarrassed to post a statement this stupid.
Whatever you say, Wodknee.
You are in desperate need of a massive dose of Thorazine and institutionalized mental health care. Or, perhaps you might consider backing off that Opium pipe a bit mate, you are killing brain cells and it appears you have very few left.
A dog would be aghast if:
had passed from it's lips. Jackasses and fools are obviously less discerning than dogs.
Purdy much sums up the 'Republicans.' Rudyard Kipling would say the same of 'Republicans.'
Knaves and fools and complete flippin' idiots. In general, criminals.
From a jackass to a king.
You condemn US military action in Iraq simply because the President who ordered it is a "Republican".
Such irrational and ignorant rhetoric doesn't even come close to deserving refutation. However, your foolishness does qualify you for an a**-chewin'. You would do well to listen to those criticizing you.
No jackass to king promotions forthcoming, much to your chagrin and the world's benefit. I also note that you remain as ignorant of Kipling as of most (dare we suggest all) other subjects you choose to opine upon here.
[quote]According to a Marine Corps document ... the request for over 1,000 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles came in February, 2005. A formal call to fulfill that order did not emerge until November, 2006. "There is an immediate need for an MRAP vehicle capability to increase survivability and mobility of Marines operating in a hazardous fire area against known threats," the 2005 "universal need statement" notes.[/quote]
[url=http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/05/military_dragge.html]Military Dragged Feet on Bomb-Proof Vehicles [/url]
With allies like poodle, you might as well pack it in now.
But, I do not want to stop anybody who thinks that they possibly can. Give it a whirl. Not quite, not even close, no, not hardly.
The Democrats are toast; dead in the water. The 'Republicans' are close behind.
nitwits
asschewin'
Which explains poodle's admiration and support.
'Republicans' are used to a lot of ass time on the computers these days.
Hey, I have a good idea: Get a freakin' job, mon.
who you gonna blame?
If the military didn't have body, or vehicle armor? If they have inadequate health care?(Walter Reid)
Who you gonna blame?
How bout the administration running the
war and the country since 2001.
who you gonna blame? [/quote]
There is plenty of blame to go around, but little credit. No credit is due the nay saying, funds witholding, fingerpointing, defeatists of the dimocrat party whose only contribution to this effort is to drag it out long enough to ensure American defeat. On the other hand we can give credit to those who have fought the majority in the both houses to fund this war and the equipment necessary to fight it.
[b]Ghostbusters![/b]
[quote]If the military didn't have body, or vehicle armor? If they have inadequate health care?(Walter Reid)
Who you gonna blame?[/quote]
1. Bush is Commander-In-Chief and the buck stops on his desk. While he is not directly involved in this process he appoints the people that are and his administration promotes necesary legislation to get the job done right. 2. The Democrats had a President in power for eight years before Bush (Billy Jeff), who gutted the military, making it a slingshot military. Thus, Bush inherited an antiquated military. Although, by now Bush should have made all the necessary corrections.
3. Many decades of Congressional law making (both parties) wherein the process from money allocation to delivering equipment in the field or medical services is antiquated, slow and unresponsive.
4. A huge Federal Bureaucracy that is like a million ton tanker try to change direction at sea, it takes so long to turn around by the time they are heading in the right direction it's past time turn again.
I won't excuse Bush, he's not perfect, not is any President; but he is ultimately responsible, when he finds things are going wrong, he is ass-kicker-in-chief and should get things fixed ASAP. However, the Congress, the former President and the other factors mentioned are accesories before, during and after the fact, sharing a large portion of the guilt.
Yet another topic about which you are (at best) ill informed. Perhaps you should limit yourself to:
Which will pretty much have you and poodle doing a rhetorical circle jerk.