DISQUS

Say Anything: The More Americans Know About Huckabee And Illegal Immigration, The Less They Like Him

  • Gene · 1 year ago
    OK, I'll bite,

    Huck is a, Well, Huckster and not fiscally conservative enough and soft on immigration.

    And, Whistler equated him with Hoeven, a death knell for sure.

    Then, your favorite candidate is a [url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/31/opinion/main3659394.shtml]dead man walking. [/url] He's finished, no chance at all.

    SO, who we got left?

    ROMNEY, who was more liberal than Kennedy until he became a Republican candidate then all that liberal stuff was no good. This guy is an everloving bag of snakes.

    OR,

    Rudy, who I like in many ways but socially is dead to the social conservatives who despite 2H9's contention are in this campaign for real. They matter more than you can imagine. They are organized, they smell blood, and they are out for it. I'm on board, but I can vote for Rudy (I think) over Hil or Hussein. My preference is Huck, but I guess you knew that.

    OR

    John McCain who has been the best democrat money can afford. Can we all say McCain Fiengold and McCain free money for illegals, and McCain who's gang of 5 7 or 9 whatever it was stripped the President of Social Security Reform. Compromise means capitulation to him.

    We have no candidate. No one unless Rob is Running.

    Madam President. Can we all say that out loud?

    We conservatives, fiscal or social are [b]so [/b]screwed and we did it to ourselves. Come back Duncan Hunter or Sam Brownback. We need you.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Hucklebee's record as Governor is what is relevant, and the more it is placed in public view the angrier Hucklebee and his supporters get. THAT should say all that needs said on Hucklebee. By hiding his true record and believes he thinks he can Huckster his way in, just as Clinton did.
  • ews48 · 1 year ago
    This is what he says now:

    * Securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency.
    * I support the $3 billion the Senate has voted for border security. This money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers. This money will turn "catch and release" into "catch and detain" of those entering illegally, and crack down on those who overstay their visas.
    * In this age of terror, immigration is not only an economic issue, but also a national security issue. Those caught trying to enter illegally must be detained, processed, and deported. As Governor, I ordered my state troopers to work with the Department of Homeland Security to arrest illegals and enforce federal immigration law.
    * I oppose and will never allow amnesty. I opposed the amnesty President Bush and Senator McCain tried to ram through Congress this summer, and opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all.
    * I oppose and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals. The federal government must crack down on rogue cities that willfully undermine our economy and national security.
    * I oppose giving driver's licenses to illegals and supports legislation to prevent states from doing so. In 2005, I signed legislation that prevents illegals in Arkansas from getting driver's licenses.
    * I will stop punishing cities which try to enforce our laws and protect the economic well-being, physical safety, and quality of life of their citizens.
    * I oppose and will not tolerate employers who hire illegals. They must be punished with fines and penalties so large that they will see it is not worth the risk.
    * I oppose the economic integration of North America that would create open borders among the United States, Canada, and Mexico. I will never yield one iota or one inch of our sovereignty.
    * I will take our country back for those who belong here. No open borders, no amnesty, no sanctuary, no false Social Security numbers, no driver's licenses for illegals.

    I know that securing our borders must be our top priority and has reached the level of a national emergency. I am as sick and tired as you are that it is harder for us to get on an airplane in our home town than it is for all these illegals to cross our international border unchallenged.
  • ews48 · 1 year ago
    [url=http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/02/huckabee-takes-lead-in-iowa-in-latest-poll/]Iowa Polls Show Him Leading[/url]
  • AprilB · 1 year ago
    Mike Huckabee is very sympathetic to illegal aliens!!!!

    It is VERY sad that businesses need no longer need to pay a fair wage for many types of work that Americans used to do because illegals will do it cheaper.

    If president, Huckabee would bypass the current legal immigration law process for immigration to the U.S. and would set up expedited processing for illegals. He would also allow the illegal aliens to keep the same jobs they held before illegally. This is very unfair to American workers.

    Huckabee has stated that our economy would collapse without the presence of illegal aliens. That is FALSE!!! I know many Americans looking for work right now.I find his stance on illegal immigration VERY unsympathetic to Americans and would never support him!

    DOWN WITH THE HUCKSTER!!!!
  • Bill Mitchell · 1 year ago
    HERE'S MY FINAL PREDICTIONS:

    Romney takes Iowa by 8. Thompson gets second with 15 and McCain places 5th with 8, right behind Paul with 9.

    Romney then goes on to win NH by 5 over McCain as McCain struggles from horrible Iowa showing and Obama wins Iowa, pulling those pesky independents from McCain. Thompson also does better than expected in NH based upon his strong showing in Iowa taking votes from McCain.

    Romney goes on to sweep the first 6 primaries and whispers start about a Romney/Thompson ticket.

    That's it. We'll see.
  • Proof · 1 year ago
    [quote]HERE'S (sic) MY FINAL PREDICTIONS: [/quote]See, Bill! Even your [i]subjects and verbs[/i] don't agree! :)
  • justinb · 1 year ago
    [quote]Romney takes Iowa by 8. Thompson gets second with 15 and McCain places 5th with 8, right behind Paul with 9.

    Romney then goes on to win NH by 5 over McCain as McCain struggles from horrible Iowa showing and Obama wins Iowa, pulling those pesky independents from McCain. Thompson also does better than expected in NH based upon his strong showing in Iowa taking votes from McCain.

    Romney goes on to sweep the first 6 primaries and whispers start about a Romney/Thompson ticket.[/quote]

    Let's hope that you are right. This is about as good of a scenario as we could find. If Thompson were 20 years younger, he would be an ideal SCOTUS nominee. That is the only thing that would be better than a VP nomination.

    Huckabee is going to galvanize the rest of the Republican Party that aren't Gene, ie folks that ignore his record simply because he speaks "Jesus" as a second language. He supports amnesty for Spanish speakers and clemency for "Jesus" speakers like the rapists and murderers that he paroled in Arkansas who went on to rape and murder again, despite being "born again" and getting a reprieve for it.
  • Bill Mitchell · 1 year ago
    Proof,

    Your entire existence is a non-sequitor.
  • Bill Mitchell · 1 year ago
    I just heard Huckabee using CLASS WARFARE on FoxNews. He sid we cannot trust Romney because HE IS RICH.

    Wow, is Huck REALLY a Republican?
  • Proof · 1 year ago
    [quote]Your entire existence is a non-sequitor. [/quote]Did your [i]mama[/i] look that up for you Bill? :)
  • Proof · 1 year ago
    [quote]He sid (sic) we cannot trust Romney because HE IS RICH. [/quote] More of a "[b]he sid[/b], [b]she sid"[/b] :)
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    IF hillary won could she nominate Bill to take her Senate seat? OR how does that work?
  • Lynn · 1 year ago
    Huckabee supports a touchback amnesty plan which only means illegals go home for a short period and return. Please, who will enforce that one? Plus his previous actions regarding aliens speak louder than words. No way should Huckabee be trusted and become the Republican nominee.
  • Gene · 1 year ago
    Mr. Bill,
    [quote] Romney takes Iowa by 8. Thompson gets second with 15 and McCain places 5th with 8, right behind Paul with 9.

    Romney then goes on to win NH by 5 over McCain as McCain struggles from horrible Iowa showing and Obama wins Iowa, pulling those pesky independents from McCain. Thompson also does better than expected in NH based upon his strong showing in Iowa taking votes from McCain.

    Romney goes on to sweep the first 6 primaries and whispers start about a Romney/Thompson ticket.[/quote]
    I'm not a betting man, but WOW, I'd be willing to take a chunk of that one.

    As my friend Reality Based Bob says, [b]"Thanks for the Barrel".[/b]

    I believe Dr Gene would diagnose this as terminal [b]hopefulthinkingitis.[/b]
  • Andrew · 1 year ago
    I really hope your predictions are right, Bill. I'm no Romney fan, but as Justin said, that's the best scenario we could realistically hope for.

    And seriously, Proof, what's the deal? No matter what Bill Mitchell says in any comment, you have to respond with lame one-liners and grammar corrections. He likes Romeny, so what? Maybe you could actually try responding to [i]what[/i] he says instead of [i]how[/i] he says it. Your crappy puns and one-liners were amusing when you first started posting here, but they've become old and predictable. Honestly, I skip over a lot of your comments because they have very little substance and I'm tired of watching you squeal with delight over how clever you think you are.
  • Anita · 1 year ago
    Huckabee is a joke. Not all of us believe he will straighten out our immigration problem. When asked how long the illegals would have to leave the country to apply for legal status, he said, a day ot two, maybe a few weeks. Tells me he plans to give them special treatment for breaking our laws. But then again, by Huck's record, he's been known to do that alot.
  • zeezil · 1 year ago
    Illegal Immigration, Huckabee and the 2008 Election

    This is basically the gist of Huckabee's immigration plan touchback provision:

    He would repeal the multi-year baring of illegals to re-enter the U.S. for illegals who register during a 120-day period with Homeland Security and temporarily exit the country (for only a few days, at most). It is also highly likely that many would not even leave the country but would be allowed to go to their nearest consulate on American soil for paperwork.

    They would face no penalty if they apply to immigrate back to U.S. (they'd be back in within just days). He would not utilize the current legal immigration law process for immigration to the U.S. but would set up special processing for these ‘special case formerly illegal' immigrants. He also would reward these lawbreakers (and their law-breaking employers) by allowing the aliens to keep the very jobs they broke into the country and took. He wants them back in quick to slide back into the same jobs they had before their quick exit and return (touchback).

    Huckabee will utilize every trick in the book to legalize illegal aliens. He's just a bit more deceptive, shifty and crafty in how he hides the fact that he will provide amnesty. By all means, don't take my word on this if you are skeptical. Dig deep on Huckabee and look at the man behing the curtain. I'm betting you won't really care for what you see.

    Huckabee has stated that our economy would collapse without the presence of illegal aliens here. Really? My oh my...how did we manage to survive as a nation and grow our economy these past two centuries and well into the 1970's before the accelerated mass entries of illegal aliens? In 1986, our spineless Congressmen and Senators decided instead of dealing with the problem, they'd just give amnesty to the illegals so their incompetence, corruption, greed and dysfunction could be just swept under the rug. Then in 2007, they tried the same thing, but this time an educated, forceful, awake and fed up public citizenry stopped them in their tracks. Now their tookus is in a sling as they don't know what to do, so basically they are doing what they've been doing over the last 30 years...nothing as far as border security and immigration enforcement.

    2008 is a pivitol year, likely even a tipping point, in the history of America. Will we continue to be a strong, sovereign nation ruled by law or will we let the invasion continue until America's slide into anarchy is unstoppable?

    We need to elect a leader as President who will protect the value of U.S. citizenship, work for the citizens of America, fiercely protect our sovereignty, stop the march to globlism and the formation of the NAU, and solve our illegal immigration problem. That does not involve granting amnesty to illegal aliens. Huckabee is not your man if you care for those issues. Neither is McCain, Ghuliani or any of the Democrats.

    Just remember to pick a candidate to support not on what they say they will do but on what they have actually done.

    For further information regarding Huckabee's deception and his true intentions, please visit these links:

    Leaders Converge on Iowa to Expose Huckabee
    http://www.alipac.us/article-2820--0-0.html

    84 Leaders Rebuke Gilchrist Endorsement of Huckabee
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-94112.html

    Huckabee & Gilchrist Touchback Amnesty Scandal Escalates
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-551344.html#551344

    Mike Huckabee's Shamnesty for Illegal Aliens
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-93987.html

    Iowa Republican's Reject Huckabee Immigration 6 to 1!
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-95799.html

    The Huck-a-Bust is Coming
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-566821.html#566821

    Will the Real Mike Huckabee Please Stand Up
    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-548091.html#548091

    Huckabee Liberal on Immigration
    http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&am...
  • Cory · 1 year ago
    Rush Limbaugh may have just had a MAJOR affect on who gets the nomination by saying that Huckabee and McCain were NOT conservative. Politico's banner story is on this and Drudge has linked to it as well.
  • golfmann · 1 year ago
    [quote]Thompson were 20 years younger, he would be an ideal SCOTUS nominee. That is the only thing that would be better than a VP nomination. [/quote]I believe he's younger than Reagan was at this point.
  • justinb · 1 year ago
    I am not saying he is too old to be President, as he is my horse in the race and he is the only candidate I have contributed money to. I think he is too old for a SCOTUS nomination, in that we want someone in their early 40's that can shape the court for 3-4 decades like Roberts and Alito.

    Reagan as President isn't at issue. Thompson is young enough to be Pres. But as an SCOTUS nominee, he is on the old side. But trust me, I would back him 100% for SCOTUS, just that it would be nice if he were 40 instead of 60.
  • peaches · 1 year ago
    Mr. Huckabee wants to allow illegal aliens to step in front of those who are waiting patiently in line to enter the United States legally. Those waiting for legal permission to enter have knocked on the door, identified themselves, stated their reasons to seek entry and followed the rules. Illegal aliens have broken the law, violated our borders, lied, stolen or cheated to work and then demand that we do more to support and educate, provide health care, housing, food stamps, etc. from our taxpayer dollars.

    Mike Huckabee thinks that stepping out and then immediately back in ("touchback" plan)constitues the forgiving of the illegal status of the 20 million plus illegal aliens. Cast your vote against Huckabee and let him know that you do not sanction that ridiculous thinking.

    Pass the message on.
  • Jill Thomas · 1 year ago
    Huckabee is deceiving the American people using his Christianity (so called) to gain trust!!!!
    This man, in his own words wants a touch back AMNESTY!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi2HCUM0pro&...

    Why are all of these corrupt politicians looking out for illegals...AMNESTY!!!!!! Why don't they start looking out for American Citizens!!!!!!!!!!
  • Neiman · 1 year ago
    Jill: To accuse Huckabee of decieving anyone implies a conscious attempt to hide the truth and sell a lie, it is judging facts that are not in evidence. Then to go further to say his "Christinity" is "so-called," implying you are able to judge his heart that he is not really a Christian, is also grossly unfair. Now, had you modified your statements to indicate that is how you feel about him, then we are all free to have our own opinions, as I do with the Hildabeast.

    You went to the heart of the issue about his amnesty beliefs. That is solid ground, we know what those beliefs are and we can reject them and him. There are many other such issues which places Huckabee in opposition to conservative principles and gives us ample reasons to reject his candidacy, without making charges that go to motive and his feelings, which are not objective facts and only cause people to get angry and divide the party.

    We need unity now and to avoid all talk at this stage that might cause division and could give us a Huckabee presidency in the process.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Nman, hucklebee is making a concerted effort to hide his less than conservative political record. I am not clear on the reason why you are bearing water for him. He is a lying piece of shit, he has, during the last 60 days, lied egregiously. He is the absolute last option anyone should be considering as far as right of political thought is concerned.
  • Neiman · 1 year ago
    2Hotel9: First, it is a terrible fault in my character whenever anyone is under attack, even if I dislike them intensely, I automatically want to defend them. Why else would I have a Don Quioxte Avatar?

    I want to try and encourage less infammatory rhetoric about Huckabee, deserved or not, because while exposing his record and turning hearts and minds away from him, I don't want at the same time to cause unnecessary division with his current supporters, we want them in the general election.

    My watchwords in this nomination cycle are: [b]Educate don't alienate![/b]

    You'll just have to forgive my weakness for anyone that gets knocked down, even if I would have liked to have thrown the punch, I cannot help getting up on my tired old, creaky bones and on my broken down old nag of a horse and ride like an old fool to the rescue. So, when you know we agree on something and yet I am strangely defending the other guy, it is just the old Don Quioxte syndrome, okay?
  • Move_Zig · 1 year ago
    First off, I agree wholeheartedly with the OP's premise statement -- that the more (Conservative) people know about the Huckster, the less they like him. I am an example.

    Watching one of the very first debates, I was taken by his glib command of the spoken word. I was impressed. In the midst of writing Fred and asking him to take him on as a running mate, I did a little research and immediately had to cancel my message. While Huck might be a good speaker and an avowed Christian, I see nothing in what he has done to show that he is not, in fact, a Demoncrat.

    By their fruits you shall know them, and Huck's fruits are on display for anyone who takes the time to look.

    I can only hope and pray that Fred wakes from his slumber and turbo-boosts up to front runner. I think he certainly has the potential, given his record on the issues (not perfect, but on balance, better than anyone else save Hunter or Tancredo).

    Second, I have had some bad experience with those who wear religion on their sleeve rather than just quietly walk the walk. One of my clients was ripped off to the tune, when it was all said and done, to about 400 hundred grand. The hornswoggler wore a WWJD bracelet and used his connections in a local church to the max... right up to the point where his disappeared with the loot.

    This is not a criticism of religion by any stretch of the imagination, rather, it is a caution against those who use religion as a smokescreen to hide their own nefarious designs.

    Be warned.
  • Neiman · 1 year ago
    Move-Zig: It is not an attack on people of faith, you pointed to a specific misuse of the word Christian that caused harm to others and connected the dots as to why Huckabee's profession of faith causes you some concern. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anything you said, because it was not language that broad brushes every Christian.