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Say Anything: Secret Service Blames Palin Rhetoric For Death Threats Against Obama

  • richNJ · 1 year ago
    Get use to this kind of intimidation. It is just begining. Will investigating the past of the POTUS now be considered a hate crime?
  • Man Train · 1 year ago
    [quote]...claims from clearly non-objective sources...[/quote]

    It's a conspiracy!

    This site is clearly non-objective. Thanks for pre-chewing our food mommy.

    Did you know that McCain actually defended Obama against the hateful rhetoric on his campaign trail?

    McCain is a TRAITOR!

    j/k
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    Blaming Sarah for telling the truth about Obama is typical leftie avoidance of responsibility. Real Americans don't like people who pal around with terrorists. Obama needs to take responsibility for his actions.
    This is just totalitarian leftie intimidation.
  • Puzzlefeet · 1 year ago
    Rob, the shoe is now on the other foot. You wrote an article connecting Obama to a drop in the Dow the other day and the Secret Service makes the connection of Palin's comments to the increase in death threats to Obama and his family.

    I'm just sayin.....
  • likwidshoe · 1 year ago
    Rob, the shoe is now on the other foot. You wrote an article connecting Obama to a drop in the Dow the other day...

    Direct connection. The market is responding to Obama.

    ...and the Secret Service makes the connection of Palin's comments to the increase in death threats to Obama and his family.

    So the Secret Service is responding to Palin?

    No. They're responding to whatever yahoos are making death threats to Obama.

    I'm just sayin.....

    You're always "just sayin" stupid shit. Maybe you should stop doing that so much.
  • pparets · 1 year ago
    The headline in the TIMES of LONDON article differs substantially from it's actual content.

    Here's an example:
    [quote]But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.[/quote]

    "may" is a significant drop-down from the tittilating headline.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Excuse me, where, exactly, is the statement from Secret Service making this charge? Anyone actually have it? I have done a sweep of http://www.secretservice.gov/ and found nothing. Same at http://www.usdoj.gov/. So where and who exactly did this come from?
  • Rabid American · 1 year ago
    They fear her, therefore they must destroy her.

    It is no more than postulation that her "words" caused some nut-bags to make threats against "The-One".

    Do the "words" of Jeremiah Wright come under such scrutiny? Most likely not....

    The "[i]We deserve it[/i]" crowd will not ever recognize the damage that his "words" do to us, especially abroad.

    How about Louis Farrakhan? His words are not about to incite violence, are they? He's so peaceful and caring about the impact of his spewage, er, I mean speeches.

    This is nothing but another libbie hit piece on the probable next GOP presidential candidate.

    Expect this to continue, to no great surprise at all...
  • Eneils Bailey · 1 year ago
    [quote]If ignorance is bliss, then I know why everyone is smiling.


    Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [/quote]

    Love those two quotes, good job.
    And they are particularly appropriate given the recent election.
  • Mickey · 1 year ago
    All one has to say is ..."words, only words" and the argument is over.

    Besides, Obama made plenty of enemies on his own accord.
    "they cling to their guns and religion". etc etc
  • Keith · 1 year ago
    Everyone needs to get over what Palin did or didn't do. She is one person in a country of millions. If she has the ability to incite this kind of violence, we have bigger things to worry about.

    Conservatives need to regroup and redouble our efforts. We are in for a rough two years, but we have to stay united in our vigilance to advance a conservative agenda. If we give up now we will lose what little precious ground we have gained.

    The conservative organizations that have been tried and true to the cause are going to be key to keeping congress in check. We have to get behind them and add voices to those insisting on small government and lower taxes. . I go to the US Chamber site often and I found this video and the message is right on. . .

    http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/takeaction...

    Now, more than ever, we have to stick together.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]We are in for a rough two years...[/quote]

    This country is in for a rough two years, at least. The problem is, 52% of Americans are completely ignorant of that.
  • SPARKIE ARBUCKLE · 1 year ago
    r108
    its not 52% of Americans, full stop. everyone doesn't vote and one cannot vote until they are 18. duh.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]its not 52% of Americans...[/quote]

    OK, less than 52% of Americans, then. The real message here is that America is in trouble, and a lot of Americans don't even know it yet.
    Do you have any figures of your own? What's your number of Americans who don't know how much trouble we're in?
    Still sniping, I see.
  • welder4 · 1 year ago
    I think some of them have woke but alas it is to late now . Yes anytime we can we need to support the conservative groups and try to keep them from being outlawed.
  • SPARKIE ARBUCKLE · 1 year ago
    Neither candidate was good. Just like Bush v. Kerry. Or Bush v. Gore. Or Clinton v. Dole. Shit, we haven't had a realistically decent choice since what, the 20s?
  • SPARKIE ARBUCKLE · 1 year ago
    Also, I thought you guys were siting the secret service as saying that those threats were not yelled. That was 'the line' one month ago. What happened?
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]That was 'the line' one month ago. What
    happened?[/quote]

    The truth was established. Those "shouts" never happened.
    As Two pointed out, there is no statement from the Secret Service blaming Sarah for anything.
    You lefties think that if you repeat your lies enough times, they will magically become true. Won't happen. How much violence was intentionally caused by Wright's intentional racist hate speech?
  • 74hodag · 1 year ago
    As for the initial post, I did see the videos and hear the "traitor" and "kill him" comments from the crowd so those are absolutely true. Unlike McCain, Palin didn't stop and inform the crowd that those were unacceptable comments. After 8 years of Bush you can hardly expect the American people to trust a Republican with the country. It IS all Bush's fault. The 2 year old democratic congress can't pass anything without his approval. He is NOT a conservative. He was in it for himself and his buddies. So they could make a pile of money. And he succeeded!
    So, what Palin did was use BS to try to obfuscate the real issues. Each time I listened to her I became more likely to vote for Obama because I only heard criticism and a very light skirting of the issues. Thankfully McCain remembered his roots at the end and tried to run at least partially on the issues. The real question in the election was who had the best ideas to get us out of Bush's mess.
  • likwidshoe · 1 year ago
    Well that's a lot of rhetoric, 74hodag.

    Good job, I think.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]Do the "words" of Jeremiah Wright come under such scrutiny? Most likely not.... [/quote]

    If anything could incite assassination thirst among nutjobs, nothing could work better than the McCain campaign's repeated and irresponsible running of irrelevant association babble regarding Ayers and Wright, especially the "God Dm America" ad thrown on TV screens right up to election day eve when it was aired vehemently on every channel. Wright needs just as much protection as the president-elect if not more.
    If McCain's plan was to run our country the way he ran his campaign, thank God he lost. Bush's mess would have been chicken feed in comparison.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]As for the initial post, I did see the videos and hear the "traitor" and "kill him" comments from the crowd so those are absolutely true.[/quote]

    The actual eyewitnesses don't agree with you, so your secondhand perception is probably false. Maybe you interpreted some sounds that way, after the MSM told you what they were. In any case, your assertion has been disproved.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    Os: As usual, you take a totally partisan stance on Wright's inflammatory hate rantings.
  • Rob · 1 year ago
    [quote]Rob, the shoe is now on the other foot. You wrote an article connecting Obama to a drop in the Dow the other day and the Secret Service makes the connection of Palin's comments to the increase in death threats to Obama and his family.

    I'm just sayin.....
    [/quote]

    The market's very real reaction to the policies Obama campaigned on is a verifiable fact. Trying to say that Palin inspired people to threaten Obama is dumb, especially when nobody was concerned about this sort of thing while your liberal buddies were out in the street burning Bush in effigy.

    This is just another smear on Palin, and an attempt to limit what we can and cannot talk about with regard to Obama.
  • patriot · 1 year ago
    [quote]I did see the videos and hear the "traitor" and "kill him" comments from the crowd so those are absolutely true. Unlike McCain, Palin didn't stop and inform the crowd that those were unacceptable comments. After 8 years of Bush you can hardly expect the American people to trust a Republican with the country. It IS all Bush's fault.[/quote]

    [b]74hodag:[/b] You don't read much do you? And you didn't "hear" the shouts and [b]you're lying[/b]. Go play over at DailyKos you'll fit right in. Before you write a post like that you should at least make sure there aren't Secret Service reports out there completely contradicting your claim.

    This story documenting the investigation by the Secret Service Agents debunked the whole thing. The "kill him" threat was [b][i]written[/i][/b] by a [b]reporter[/b] secret service agents standing nearby didn't hear a thing. Gee, how could that happen, the media LOVED Palin? T
    [quote]
    Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

    "I was baffled," he said after reading the report in Wednesday's Times-Tribune.

    He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

    Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. [b]He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell "kill him.[/b]"
    [b]
    "We have yet to find someone to back up the story,[/b]" Slavoski said. "We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it."

    Hackett said he did not hear the remark.

    Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn't give a description of the man because he didn't see him he only heard him.[/quote]
  • likwidshoe · 1 year ago
    Oswaldo - If anything could incite assassination thirst among nutjobs, nothing could work better than the McCain campaign's repeated and irresponsible running of irrelevant association babble regarding Ayers and Wright...

    If that's the standard, then you better shut up now because all you're doing is inciting people.

    Have fun trying to live under your own partisan rules.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    Palin's comments were insignificant in inciting violence compared to McCain's TV ads.
    She was the only good part of the ticket.

    [quote]Save America; boycott the MSM.[/quote]
    If the MSM (discounting Fox and MSNBC) served anyone, it was McCain and Palin. It enabled the McCain campagin to camouflage the grotesque farce it really was by offering him fair and balanced coverage. I was beginning to get fed up with the media and all its biased news in favor of McCain, especially McCNN which led the pack with its ingnorant anti-ACORN jabber.
    Also, while I applaud McCain for having called for respect for Obama during his rallies, I disapprove of how he hypocritically allowed his campaign and supporters to pound Obama's character through disgraceful TV ads. It was his lack of real decency compared to Obama that made him unpopular among ballooning numbers of decency-conscious young American voters.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]Wright's inflammatory hate rantings. [/quote]

    According to you, this is not partisan?
  • richNJ · 1 year ago
    Oswaldo....you better check your filament. It is starting to burn to bright.
  • Rob · 1 year ago
    [quote]According to you, this is not partisan?[/quote]

    It's accurate. Have you heard the man speak?

    This whole argument against McCain/Palin and the right is "shoot the messenger." All we've done is expose the things Obama's pastor actually said. All we've done is point out the people Obama actually worked with/for.

    If you want to blame someone for those things, blame Obama. He picked his pastor. He picked his friends. He picked his colleagues. He is not a victim in all of this.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]According to you, this is not partisan?[/quote]

    I thought I included the term "racist" as well, as in "inflammatory, racist hate rantings". Oh, well. It's not "partisan" to describe what he did. I've seen the video. It's fact, and the only partisan thing here is your choosing to ignore what he did, for at least twenty years. You want to focus on some truth told by the McCain campaign, but ignore the inflammatory, racist hate rantings of Wright. Partisan double standard.
    What about the laundry list of lies the Obama campaign told about Sarah? What about the persecution of Joe the Plumber for asking an honest question?
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    IF telling the truth about Obama and his ties with Terrorists provokes some crazies to try to kill Obama? That is NOT Palins fault. Obama and his cult like following is bound to bring out the Nuts. (It actually already has.)
  • Puzzlefeet · 1 year ago
    Zsa Zsa, you shouldn't talk down about yourself.
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    Puzzle, You should talk at all.
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    Puzzle, You shouldn't talk at all.
  • richNJ · 1 year ago
    Puzzlefeet........I finally fiqured out your name. You don't know which foot is left or right? Am I right...huh...I bet you have an L and R tatooed on them?....huh...LOL
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    And neither puzz, spark, or osmoron have produced the report from the Secret Service that puts forth the charge of incitement against Sarah Palin.

    The only thing from Secret Service that can be verified is the fact that there were no shouts of "Kill Him" or "Terrorist" at any of her rallies, and only one inflammatory comment at a McC rally.

    Why the ringing silence, leftards? Scroll back up the thread, I posted the addresses for Dept Justice and Secret Service. Go find this report for us. You will notice that the Telegraph does not have it either, all they have is an anonymous report from an anonymous Obama campaign staffer.

    Why do you think that is?
  • SPARKIE ARBUCKLE · 1 year ago
    richNJ:
    wtf?
  • Kenny · 1 year ago
    [quote]If anything could incite assassination thirst among nutjobs, nothing could work better than the McCain campaign's repeated and irresponsible running of irrelevant association babble regarding Ayers and Wright, especially the "God Dm America" ad thrown on TV screens right up to election day eve when it was aired vehemently on every channel. Wright needs just as much protection as the president-elect if not more.
    If McCain's plan was to run our country the way he ran his campaign, thank God he lost. Bush's mess would have been chicken feed in comparison. [/quote]

    That is quite possibly the stupidest thing you ever said. Playing the man's words is "inciting hate" towards him? You know then, Os, you're inciting hatred toward McCain by constantly bringing up his short comings. If anything happens to McCain or his supporters, we know to hold you responsible. Maybe you should hold your tongue if you wish to avoid the gallows.

    [quote]If the MSM (discounting Fox and MSNBC) served anyone, it was McCain and Palin. It enabled the McCain campagin to camouflage the grotesque farce it really was by offering him fair and balanced coverage. I was beginning to get fed up with the media and all its biased news in favor of McCain, especially McCNN which led the pack with its ingnorant anti-ACORN jabber. [/quote]

    Oh please. Matthews announcing he "felt a thrill run up his leg" was helpful to McCain? If anything was a distraction, it was the media enabling Obama to run his McCain=Bush campaign.

    Where was the coverage of ACORN, Fannie and Freddy,the BAIPA, etc? Minute pieces run once at best.

    Not that Oswaldo cares. His messiah was being criticized, and you shouldn't have freedom to criticize the first black President.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Remedial reading, spark. You really should invest in some.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    Rob says

    [quote]All we've done is expose the things Obama's pastor actually said. All we've done is point out the people Obama actually [i][b]worked with/for[/b][/i].[/quote]

    Why? Simply because the Right wanted to instil in the minds of gullible Americans that what Wright said is what Obama believed. You wanted to give the impression that Obama agrees with the statement "God Dn America," knowing full well that such is not the case and hoping that impression is what would stick rather than whom he [b][i]worked with/for[/i][/b]." That is known as defamation of character, the very thing McCain pledged not to resort to and for which, in keeping with his party's gutter tactics, he unhesitatingly prostituted his integrity and gave his approval. It typifies the Rightwing sleaze machine. Its scumbag motto in this and former elections has consistently been to sling slime and to indulge in sleaze, falsehoods, character defamation, slander and (most dishonorably) voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
    The redemption of the Republican Party will indeed
  • KevinC · 1 year ago
    "This is nothing but another libbie hit piece on the probable next GOP presidential candidate."

    GOD I HOPE SO!! I am hesitant to let the cat out of the bag but a lot of us libbies are praying that Palin is the 2012 pick...it wouldn't be much of a race, seriously, Palin is an idiot and more than 53% of the country knows this. I just hope the other 47& don't figure it out and they let her run...[insert evil laugh]
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    osmoron, any proof of all these felony level criminal charges you are making? Any at all?
  • goon · 1 year ago
    [quote]You wanted to give the impression that Obama agrees with the statement "God Dn America," knowing full well that such is not the case and hoping that impression is what would stick rather than whom he worked with/for." [/quote]

    Based on some of the crap NOBAMA and his wife have said, I don't think it is a stretch at all to say that NOBAMA could and probably does agree with Wrong Reverend Wright, NOBAMA in his book said that Wright is the best the Black Church has to offer. Really. Pretty sure that Wrong Reverend Wright hasn't changed his view since then.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    Rob says

    [quote]All we've done is expose the things Obama's pastor actually said. All we've done is point out the people Obama actually [i][b]worked with/for[/b][/i].[/quote]

    Why? Simply because the Right wanted to instill in the minds of gullible Americans that what Wright said is what Obama believed. You wanted to give the impression that Obama agrees with the statement "God Dn America," knowing full well that such is not the case and hoping that impression is what would stick rather than whom he [b][i]worked with/for[/i][/b]." That is known as defamation of character, precisely what McCain pledged not to resort to and for which, in keeping with his party's gutter tactics, he unhesitatingly prostituted his integrity and gave his approval. It typifies what the Right stands for. Its guiding principle in this and former elections has consistently been indulgence in falsehoods, character defamation, slander and (most dishonorably un-American) voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
    The redemption of the Republican Party will indeed be a difficult uphill battle as it struggles to adopt principles predicated on decency and honor, the very values exemplified by Obama and the American people of all religious or ideological persuasions who elected him.
  • Kenny · 1 year ago
    [quote]Why? Simply because the Right wanted to instill in the minds of gullible Americans that what Wright said is what Obama believed. [/quote]

    There's more than enough evidence he did. You don't go to a church you disagree with. That in and of itself is enough. Hs wife echoes the sentiments of the pastor. That is enough. Obama quotes one of these speeches happily and titles his second book after it. That too is enough.

    It's stupid to believe otherwize.

    [quote]That is known as defamation of character, precisely what McCain pledged not to resort to and for which, in keeping with his party's gutter tactics, he unhesitatingly prostituted his integrity and gave his approval. It typifies what the Right stands for. Its guiding principle in this and former elections has consistently been indulgence in falsehoods, character defamation, slander and (most dishonorably un-American) voter suppression and disenfranchisement. [/quote]

    Just because you're not honest doesn't mean no one else should be.
  • sc · 1 year ago
    74hodag:

    Your statement that the last two years the dems could not pass anything withoug Bush. Did you every here of the huge farm fill that passed, over the veto of Bush.

    Please try and be at least a little intelligent about issues before you post crap.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    osmoron? Have you actually read either of Barri's books? Or are you simply calling the President-elect a liar because you are a moron?
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    Oswaldo, Revealing Obama's affiliations with men like William Ayers, Rev. Wright etc is not defamation of character. Defamation involves slander or libel. It is not defamation to speak the truth about the One. Are you really so naive not to know that the Commie Libs give as much as they get? Even the MSM now chuckles at how Obama lied repeatedly about Mac's positions on Taxes and Health Care. BUT McCain could not effectively counter it. AND of course they were not going to point that out during the Campaign. By the way, IF you want to read books on Voter Suppression and disenfranchisement, you will find that almost all the authors are Dems.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]You wanted to give the impression that Obama agrees with the statement "God Dn America,"...[/quote]

    He does; it's the truth, not an "impression".
  • Kurt · 1 year ago
    The SS will fabricate any excuse to make a statement. They must be the modern Keystone Kops.
  • welder4 · 1 year ago
    Never has any proof, it is just propaganda in its purest form coming from the left they have no proof of anything . I posted a link for puzzle feet to show that the democrats were to blame for the wall street melt down and sure as shooting puzzle feet did not respond nor did puzzle feet go to the link, it settles all questions about the melt down and who caused it . they get real quite when the proof is right in front of them .
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Kurt, perhaps you would like to show us the statement from Secret Service which charges Palin with incitement.
  • Kurt · 1 year ago
    Kurt, perhaps you would like to show us the statement from Secret Service which charges Palin with incitement.

    That's what I'm saying, don't think it can be found. The charges must be hearsay and fabricated from staffers. It's the left with their panties in a knot.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]osmoron? Have you actually read either of Barri's books? Or are you simply calling the President-elect a liar because you are a moron? [/quote]

    Yes I've read Obama's "Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope." I've also read McCain's "Faith of My Fathers." Try reading Chapter 6 on "Faith" in Barack's AOH for a genuine understanding of his faith-based Christian principles.
    But if you wish to continue pursuing the GOP's filth-based dogma, I understand. It will take a little time for you to shed that hideous hide.
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    Sorry Kurt, thought you were another koolaider, like osmoron here.

    osmoron, socialism is not a part of Christianity, no matter how big a lie you screech about it.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]Where was the coverage of ACORN, Fannie and Freddy,the BAIPA, etc? Minute pieces run once at best. [/quote]

    Every friggen day.

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  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]Oh please. Matthews announcing he "felt a thrill run up his leg" was helpful to McCain? If anything was a distraction, it was the media enabling Obama to run his McCain=Bush campaign[/quote]

    If you'll look at my above post again, you'll see I deliberately discounted Fox News (O'Reilly, Hannity, Ingraham) and MSNBC (Olberman, Matthews, Maddow) in order to maintain some semblance of objectivity, and to avoid time-consuming idiotic comments like yours. But there you go, childishly getting your rocks off with the Matthews thrill reference
  • 2Hotel9 · 1 year ago
    I love how osmoron conveniently stepping past the small fact that Freddie and Fannie were chaired by several of the Democrats who Barri is currently putting forward as members of his Admin. Thats sweet!
  • Kenny · 1 year ago
    [quote]Every friggen day. [/quote]

    So, Oswaldo, to show there was news coverage...on tv or in major newspapers...you link me to a page on Fannie Mae's web site, that you found with a "fannie mae acorn" search string. You know you didn't disprove my case right? Where was the ACTUAL news coverage of Obama being the number two recipiant of their donations? Where was the news coverage of his stand on Partial Birth Abortion and the BAIPA? IT WASN'T THERE.

    No matter how many irrelevant links you post.

    [quote]But there you go, childishly getting your rocks off with the Matthews thrill reference [/quote]

    As opposed to you childishly saying "the media helped McCain". Based on what? What honest evidence do you have of such a claim?

    Here's the Washington Post on November 4th (election day), giving Ayers account of his and Obama's relationship as gospel:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

    And to boot it compares him to "Willie Horton", which has become a term for "unfair racism".

    AP ran the story as well.

    Here's the AP AGAIN parroting the Wright/Obama line:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_el_pr...