DISQUS

Say Anything: Sarah Shows Her Superior Knowledge of Foreign Policy, Compared to Obama

  • realitybasedbob · 1 year ago
  • realitybasedbob · 1 year ago
    [quote]Sunday, September 28, 2008

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday--including the first day of post-debate polling--is unchanged. Barack Obama once again attracts 50% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll]This six-point advantage matches Obama's biggest lead yet and marks the first time he has held such a lead for two-days running [/url](see trends). Obama is now viewed favorably by 57% of voters, McCain by 55%. [/quote]
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    rbb: Anything other than agendized polls? How about something on-topic?
  • realitybasedbob · 1 year ago
    [quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXL86v8NoGk]How about something on-topic? [/url][/quote]


    [quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwWGS73v4_k]A foxtard agrees[/url][/quote]
  • Lestat · 1 year ago
    This is idiotic.

    We have no obligation to endorse everything Israel does.

    If you believe this is an understanding of foreign policy than you are a moron.Le
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    You lefties miss the obvious(even after I put it in bold type): We are the good guys, and Obama doesn't know that.
    It would seem that we might want someone representing us in foreign policy that knows that simple fact, not someone who thinks the US is some evil enterprise, like Obama, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger do.

    Lestat: You might want to look up the meaning of "ally", before you humiliate yourself even more than you usually do.
  • pparets · 1 year ago
    [quote]Poll Date Sample
    GW/Battleground Tracking 09/21 - 09/25 1000 LV 46 48 McCain +2
    [/quote]

    Interesting... while gallup polls track registered voters, GWBT uses likely voters... a far more accurate pool.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    Sorry Bob, polls don't mean shit until the third debate is over, and that goes for whether it's McCain, [b]or[/b] obama in the lead.
  • Zsa Zsa · 1 year ago
    Israel is our closest ally in the Mideast. Sarah is Right and Obama is WRONG once again!
  • Lestat · 1 year ago
    [quote]Lestat: You might want to look up the meaning of "ally", before you humiliate yourself even more than you usually do. [/quote]I know what an ally is. An example would be Spain.

    But being an ally does not mean we won't second guess any of their actions.

    [quote]Interesting... while gallup polls track registered voters, GWBT uses likely voters... a far more accurate pool.[/quote]Rasmussen samples likely voters and has Obama with a 6 point lead.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]But being an ally does not mean we won't second guess any of their actions.[/quote]

    The subject was allowing them to be wiped off the map by not supporting them. Spain is a totally different class of ally, but if they faced the threat Israel faces, we would support them, also.
    Still not getting the hang of this "ally" thing, eh Lestat?
  • Lestat · 1 year ago
    Why do you want to give our sovreignty over to Israel where we will just do what they say.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]Why do you want to give our sovreignty over to Israel where we will just do what they say.[/quote]

    More formulaic leftie bullshit. Look up that "ally" word again. Educate yourself.
  • james · 1 year ago
    Sara Palin is not an intellectual giant but she knows what foreign policy is all about. If you can see Russia from your window then you can say you have experience in foreign affairs. Liberals want to complicate foreign policy as if it is nuclear science and Sara put it in terms all Americans can understand.
    I want to go a little bit further in this effort as well and tell you if you ever sow a foreigner even Mexicans and Canadians you shouldn't shy away from claiming your foreign policy experience my friends. Seeing is believing.
    May God bless America!
  • Bat One · 1 year ago
    [quote]Sara Palin is not an intellectual giant but she knows what foreign policy is all about.[/quote]

    James,

    There is a pretty compelling argument to be made that it has been self-styled "intellectual giants" who have got us into the assorted messes we now face. The idea that only those who insist on their own intellectual and moral superiority should assume positions of authority is leftist crap. What we need are more honest, everyday Americans making decisions on their own behalf and ours.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    Once again, Sarah shows her superior qualifications when she knows who the good guys are: Us. Obama and his crew still don't know that. Why should an America-hating racist be elected President? Seems insane to me.
  • Kenny · 1 year ago
    [quote]Why do you want to give our sovreignty over to Israel where we will just do what they say. [/quote]

    That's an extremely stupid comeback.

    The United States, and the rest of the world has been meddling in Israel's affairs for decades. "Too much", "not gentle enough", "be nicer", "not so many missles", etc. Liberals have been demanding (and damning) Israel give over her sovereignty to either the UN or the United States Democratic party.

    And the fool who will vote for a man who wants to cede our sovereignty to the UN whines about us letting Israel conduct their own affairs as us "giving up our sovereignty". What a fool.
  • Davinski · 1 year ago
    [quote]As a black separatist/Marxist[/quote]

    Please give me one Obama quote that indicates this absurdity, robert 108. No, I do not want examples of who his friends were when he was in 1st grade or who his religion teacher was. What has he said? It sounds like you have no comprehension of what Marxism truly is, my friend.
  • Joel · 1 year ago
    "....where white folks' greed runs a world in need"
    -Barack Obama- Dreams From My Father
    Link at bottom

    [quote]"If [black]nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, [b]then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites,[/b] or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence. If nationalism could deliver. [/quote]

    --Barack Obama, "Dreams From My Father," pp. 199-200 (paperback edition)

    Perhaps we weakened black resolve, encouraged confusion within the ranks. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times are chronically desperate.


    --Barack Obama, "Dreams From My Father," pp. 199-200 (paperback edition)

    Or what about Obama's proposed ‘civilian national security force'

    He said: [quote]"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."[/quote]



    And what about Obama's $845 Billion Global Poverty Act?

    From Barack Obama's Senate office comes this statement: [quote]"As we strive to rebuild America's standing in the world this important bill [Global Poverty Act] will demonstrate our promise and commitment to those in the developing world."[/quote]

    The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, [quote]"We can - and must - make a priority",[/quote]

    The imposition of a global tax on the United States to alleviate world poverty is Marxist and would make U.S. Foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations."[url=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56405]Read it here [/url]
  • Joel · 1 year ago
    ...and then there is this from his most trusted and valued senior adviser-Michelle:

    [quote]Elements of Black culture which make it unique from White culture such as its music, its language, the struggles and a "consciousness" shared by its people may be attributed to the injustices and oppression suffered by this race of people which are not comparable to the experiences of any other race of people through this country's history. However, with the increasing integration of Blacks into the mainstream society, many "integrated Blacks" have lost touch with the Black culture in their attempts to become adjusted and comfortable in their new culture--the White culture. Some of these Blacks are no longer able to enjoy the qualities which make Black culture so unique or are unable to share their culture openly with other Blacks because they have become so far removed from these experiences and, in some instances, ashamed of them because of their integration.[/quote]

    Michelle LaVaughn Robinson [Obama], "Princeton Educated Blacks and the Black Community," page 54
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    Davinski: It's his background in both black liberation theology(which he sought out specifically for "street cred") and his political background in Saul Alinsky's radical, Marxist, community agitation politics. He has carefully avoided making specific Marxist statements, at least until he's elected, which is part of Alinsky's playbook.
    All of this has been well-documented, but carefully not revealed to the public in general, courtesy of our "watchdog" MSM, which can't print the latest lie about Sarah soon enough.
    I know Marxism chapter and verse, which is why I know it's a fabric of lies and fantasies.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    [quote] As a black separatist/Marxist

    Please give me one Obama quote that indicates this absurdity,[/quote]

    "Obama's bill would force U.S. taxpayers to fork over 0.7% of our gross domestic product every year to fund a global war on poverty, spending well above the $16.3 billion in global poverty aid the U.S. already spends.

    Over a 13-year period, from 2002, when the U.N.'s Financing for Development Conference was held, to the target year of 2015, when the U.S is expected to meet its part of the U.N. Millennium goals, we would be spending an additional $65 billion annually for a total of $845 billion.

    During a time of economic uncertainty, the plan would cost every American taxpayer around $2,500."

    Marxist is a gross exaggeration. Socialist however, hits the nail right no the head, and neither of them are American's cuppa tea.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]Marxist is a gross exaggeration.[/quote]

    Not at all; his political mentor was Saul Alinsky, a Marxist community agitator, in whose footsteps Obama followed in Chicago. His slogan, borrowed from Wright; "White folks greed keeps a world in need." is simply a restatement of Marx, about capitalism. He's a Marxist, pure and simple.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    [quote]Not at all; his political mentor was Saul Alinsky, a Marxist community agitator, in whose footsteps Obama followed in Chicago. His slogan, borrowed from Wright; "White folks greed keeps a world in need." is simply a restatement of Marx, about capitalism. He's a Marxist, pure and simple.[/quote]
    So what? His mentor was a Marxist. From a purely logical standpoint, that does not in turn make him a Marxist. His policies thus far, at most, prove him to hold socialist ideals of the redistribution of wealth. Now, mind you, that's not admirable, but socialism and Marxism is to Catholicism what Socialism is to Christianity. It's a subset therein, and to the best of my knowledge, Obama hasn't quite made that jump yet (even if I have personal conviction that he will).

    And since when was "White folks greed keeps a world in need." his slogan? Hope and Change are a little more his style of persuasion. That line is a quote from his writings in The Audacity of Hope as I recall, and, as I also recall, Senator McCain has quoted communists before too... directly even.

    [quote]Remember the words of Chairman Mao: 'It's always darkest before it's totally black.'.[/quote]

    ^^^^
    http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog...

    Quoting Marxists doesn't make you a Marxist.

    I can find some small inherent value, or witty quip in most ideologies.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    [quote]but socialism and Marxism is to Catholicism what Socialism is to Christianity.[/quote]
    Damn... let me try that again.

    Marxism is to Catholicism what Socialism is to Christianity.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]So what? [/quote]

    Are you kidding?

    [quote]Quoting Marxists doesn't make you a Marxist.[/quote]

    Believing in those quotes makes you a Marxist; being a Marxist community agitator makes you a Marxist; following black liberation theology, which is simply a restatement of Marx's bloody revolution for the workers overthrowing the capitalists with racial spin is Marxist.
    How deep in denial are you, Eddie?

    [quote]Marxism is to Catholicism what Socialism is to Christianity. [/quote]

    Irrelevant nonsense, and just plain wrong.
    Marxism hates all religion, since it takes loyalty away from the State.
  • Davinski · 1 year ago
    Again, I ask the question, give me an example of Obama being a Marxist. Those quotes indicate nothing of the kind to me. At best he is a liberal, who works completely within the context of a capitalistic political economy.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]At best he is a liberal, who works completely within the context of a capitalistic political economy.[/quote]

    Wrong again. Look up ACORN.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    [quote][quote]So what[/quote]

    Are you kidding? [/quote]
    Do you expect me to be able to create a rebuttal based on the two most meaningless quips from our respective posts?

    [quote]Believing in those quotes makes you a Marxist;[/quote]
    So... if McCain believes his quote about it being darkest before total black, he's a Marxist too, right? We wouldn't want to hold double-standards for our elected officials.

    Or did you mean to say that believing in the full ideology of Marxist Socialism makes you a Marxist?

    [quote]being a Marxist community agitator makes you a Marxist;[/quote]
    Being a Marxist makes you Marxist... with circular logic like that, why do I even bother debating?

    [quote]following black liberation theology, which is simply a restatement of Marx's bloody revolution for the workers overthrowing the capitalists with racial spin is Marxist.[/quote]
    Black Liberation Theologists recognize (a flawed interpretation of) Christ, and his divinity, therefore, cannot be true Marxists. "Die Religion ist das Opium des Volkes" and all that jazz. I anxiously await a source providing support for your theory that all black liberation theologists are Marxist.

    [quote]How deep in denial are you, Eddie?[/quote]
    I'm not, I just don't buy into rhetoric. One minute, he's a devout closet Muslim, the next he adheres to a radical form of racist Christianity, the next he's Marxist, and holds no religious beliefs whatsoever! People need to pick one, and stick to their guns, because, and it is sad that I should have to explain it, the three theories clearly cannot coexist.

    [quote]Irrelevant nonsense, and just plain wrong.
    Marxism hates all religion, since it takes loyalty away from the State. [/quote]
    You choose to overlook my point entirely. As Rob would say, "nice straw man though".

    I was not alluding to Christianity and Marxism being compatible. You see Robert, in the literary world, we call that a "formal analogy". [b]A[/b] is to [b]B[/b], as [b]C[/b] is to [b]D[/b].

    Economic socialism [A] an economic system in which the means of production is controlled by the state or government, is to Christianity [B], a religion believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ,

    as

    Marxism [C], a specific denomination of socialism in which wage labor and private ownership of property is eliminated, in favor of communal work and progress, is to Catholicism [D], a specific denomination of Christians

    My formal metaphor is relevant, meaningful, and uses logic to reinforce the conclusion.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

    One of many user-friendly sources if you care for a tad of light reading, assuming that is that you don't know everything there is to know about systems of government.
  • Hungry Bear · 1 year ago
    We have to admit it. Sarah Palin isn't the most qualified VP ever.

    But she a hell of a lot more qualified than Obama.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]Or did you mean to say that believing in the full ideology of Marxist Socialism makes you a Marxist?[/quote]

    I'll say it one more time, then will return to the topic of this post. Putting Marxism into action, as Obama has, makes him a Marxist, and therefore not worthy of being President of our free country.

    Sarah knows the Marxists are the bad guys, even if you don't.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    Not only that, but his efforts to take out his competition, rather than letting the voters decide, is definitely Stalinist.
    His economics are Marxist, his tactics are Stalinist.
    His social ideas are black separatist.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    Alright. Now that returning to topic (coincidentally when my best arguments hit the table) is priority numero uno, let's discuss Palin's Superior Knowledge.

    I've been rather excited about her candidacy since she was announced. McCain, I could care less about, but I felt that she embodied a sort of new-republican sensibility that our party so desperately needs, and batted down the senseless partisan media hackery surrounding her entry into the race.

    Then... I caught this last night. My brother was trolling youtube and pulled this up.

    www. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=

    now, at the end of that URL, add L8__aXxXPVc

    and then

    .com

    (you'll have to close the gaps yourself in the URL, it's been "blacklisted" apparently)

    I'm currently posting on it in a reader blog. What do you guys make of it?
  • Hawk · 1 year ago
    [quote]Sarah knows the Marxists are the bad guys, even if you don't. [/quote]Actually, it wouldn't suprise me if she thought Iran was Marxist.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]Actually, it wouldn't suprise me if she thought Iran was
    Marxist.[/quote]

    There you go again, making stuff up.
  • Eddie_the_Hated · 1 year ago
    [quote][quote]Actually, it wouldn't suprise me [b][u]if[/u][/b] she thought Iran was Marxist.[/quote]

    There you go again, making stuff up. [/quote]'
    You're awfully worried about someone doing something as heinous as creating their own opinion. he didn't say she did, he said it wouldn't surprise him. You can't fact check someone's response to theoretical news.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]You can't fact check someone's response to theoretical news.[/quote]

    My point exactly; you can try to smear someone by just making stuff up; no facts involved.
    Saying "it wouldn't surprise me" is the same as assuming it's factual, which it isn't. Therefore, the "making stuff up" comment. Clear?
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    BRW; I'm not "worried" about anything; you just made that up.
  • Jeebus · 1 year ago
    Whew...are you real? I thought I'd seen some serious knuckle-draggers, but you morons take the friggin' cake. Here's an idea...take your false indignation and shove it up your ass.

    Thank you very much,
    Jeebus
  • Bat One · 1 year ago
    Another all too perfect example of the incisive intelligence and keen, analytical capabilities of the self-styled "progressive" Left. Thank you!

    The most compelling reason to support the candidacy of John McCain and Sarah Palin is the dysfunction of those who oppose them.
  • Oswaldo · 1 year ago
    [quote]But she a hell of a lot more qualified than Obama[/quote]

    Holy shit! Dumbest comment ever heard.

    [quote]Not at all; his political mentor was Saul Alinsky, a Marxist community agitator, in whose footsteps Obama followed in Chicago. His slogan, borrowed from Wright; "White folks greed keeps a world in need." is simply a restatement of Marx, about capitalism. He's a Marxist, pure and simple. [/quote]

    A croc of shit, pure and simple.


    [quote]Obama and his crew still don't know that [we are the good guys]. [/quote]

    By what standards are we the good guys? The world doesn't consider us to be the good guys. An international survey even found that we are regarded as the greatest threat to world peace.

    Eddie, don't try to use logic or reason with r108. He, and the Republicans, are the perfect illustration of what Gore spoke of in his book "[i]Assault on Reason[/i]."

    By the way, R108, are you [i]for [/i]or [i]against [/i] Bush today? Be careful, McCain is listening.
  • robert108 · 1 year ago
    [quote]By the way, R108, are you for or against Bush today? Be careful, McCain is listening.[/quote]

    You're some kind of moron, right? I'm for the truth, idiot.
    Before Sarah, I wasn't going to vote for President; now I'm voting for Sarah.
    You lockstep, partisan lefties see the world through your partisan filter; I look for someone to maintain the Constitution and the founding principles, and that is not the black separatist/Marxist Obama.
    For all his faults, McCain at least isn't a commie, and Sarah is a real conservative, which is why you lying lefties are so desperate to smear her. She's got you shitting in your pants with fear.
    Obama is an ignorant commie, and Biden is a blithering idiot.