DISQUS

ews48 · 2 years ago

The ability to discipline has already been legislated out of parents' and teachers' hands.

Children know and will tell their parents, "If you touch me, I will call the police and have you arrested". People call the police if they see a parent spanking their child.

Defending yourself is discouraged and punished in schools. Try punching some one in the face who is pushing you around at school and see who gets in trouble and who is called.

This burden has been placed on police by legislators.

Zsa Zsa · 2 years ago

Parental rights have been taken away because of child abuse laws. It only makes sense the parents would check with law officials to make sure they clean their rooms. Every time another LAW is set into motion we lose our individual freedoms. I know child abuse is horrible and deserves special attention. BUT not every parent is an abuser. In fact I would imagine most parents are NOT abusive. Parents are so scared to punish their children these days. So many kids are so disrespecrful to their elders and have no fear of anything. Even kids who skip school get parents in trouble instead of the kid getting in trouble. That equals irresponsible rebellious children...

Rob · 2 years ago

ews, I couldn't agree more.

Neiman · 2 years ago

Zsa Zsa: You are absolutely right, but please don't forget that too many parents, influenced by the tolerationist Left for several decades have abandoned their parental obligations because they don't understand that love sometimes has to be tough, say no and make children grow up.

Anna · 2 years ago

LOL, Oh Rob, you have no idea the evil door you may have open for my madness to be exposed. (yes people, I can get worse than my normal worse).
This issue brings up many things that society is failing at.
First of all, parents are afraid to be the bad person. Being friends with your child is a lot more fun ... well until they no longer treat you as a parent anyway.
Parents give their child more freedom and less rules than what they had ... thinking a couple rules aren't that big of deal. Until after a generation or more, the rules no longer exist.
Parents don't set any expectation and if they do they don't firmly set it and child learns quickly what they can get away with.
Parents teach their children not to accept responsibility. Children do wrong and parents are always right there protecting their child from being blamed. Even when the child has done wrong the parents find blame everywhere but where it should be.
An example of this can be the boys spanking the girls in the hall way issue. I don't recall the parents ever suggesting that their boys have actually done wrong. The boys have broken the rule and yet the only thing the boys hear from their parents is how the school is wrong. Not knowing the recent news on that story I'll not continue on it. (but I would if I had time to search more, lol)
Anyway, there are legitimate reasons for some parents to call for outside help. That goes for schools calling the police also. That has been done since the 50's if not earlier. I agree with schools calling the law. If the parent can not or do not handle the problem then it is not the schools job outside of normal education. If the public wants us to do more than educate then I want a full time bodyguard and guards in the halls. If juvenile delinquents are allowed to remain in school then the schools need to convert in to JD facilities.
Now, thanks to Rob, I think I'll go get myself an espresso with a shot of opium
;)

redwolf · 2 years ago

we are truly becoming a police state,other than the three rs schools should stay out of the kids lives.thats the problem here schools have become brooders for inept parents whose own maturity is in question.

Vera · 2 years ago

Hear hear.

hmmm ...I guess this means that I shouldn't call the police about the screaming and out of control neighborhood children whose parents are standing right there watching them...

Vera

Anna · 2 years ago

As a teacher, it's is so frustrating when so many parents are not involved with raising their own children. It tends to be (some) teachers natural inkling to nurture these socially abandoned children but unfortunately the laws now prevent us from attending to individual students. I don't blame the school administration or laws or government for these changes. I blame all the advocates, coalitions, groups, organizations, lawyers etc that have put the fear in us for everything we do as a society.

Pilgrim · 2 years ago

Boy, this article hits the nail right square on the head.

We get called because some kid won't get up and go to school, or because (like the article said) because some kid won't clean his room or cut the grass or - get this - because some kid talked back to their parents.

My mom's answer to the talk back thing was simple - swift, sure, and painful justice. You didn't talk back because, well, it HURT when you did. You got up and went to school when you didn't want to for the same reason. Unless, of course, you could con your mom into believing you really DID have an ear ache. Ot whatever. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.

Parents want the police and the schools to parent their children now. Parenting is just too much work.

2Hotel9 · 2 years ago

Just had this conversation with a local Sheriff's deputy. They get these calls all the time, for a list of "crimes" that is simply staggering.

Oh. Before it slips my mind. HAPPY HIROSHIMA DAY!!! y'all.

DBdowner · 2 years ago

Really sad. I have a cousin who has had the police called on him twice by his dad. Bad kid? Well, when he was 11 he shut his door while his sister was talking to him and his dad's screaming didn't sink in so his dad called the cops. He was curled up in his closet crying. After a long stint of mental problems followed by mild drug abuse, he moved back in with his parents (bad move). His dad called the cops on him because he was leaving cups on the counter. Before the last abuse of the police, I had a talk with his dad. I encouraged his dad to not gripe on his son who was going through pot withdrawals cold turkey if he wanted to see his son get through this. A side note, when he has his first complete mental breakdown at 13 years old, I had my cousin move in with me. He said my children were dealt such a bad hand. I said to him, "Anyone would go insane if the woke up to their dad screaming at their mom for an hour every morning for doing something wrong." Amazingly, the dad is the only one in the family who doesn't have mental problems. I remember trying to cheer up my suicidal 13 year old cousin after he just came out of the hospital. He was crying almost the entire time as we played chess on the computer. Unfortunately, he left the chair out when we got up from the computer. His dad screamed at his suicidal son for being disrespectful. WOw.... I write too much. This subject just really pisses me off. Officers need a stamp that reads "Pathetic Parent". When they get a call from one of these losers, they need to stamp them on the forehead and say,"When you need another one, just give us a call."

edie · 2 years ago

There are quite a few things I did not do as a child because I feared the attack of the wooden spoon. It has not left me emotionally scarred nor do I feel like I was abused. My parents drew lines that I knew without a doubt if I crossed them there would be a punishment involved.

Many say it has to do with the violence on TV, video games, and gangsta rap. Listen folks I grew up watching Yogi Bear and have never had the urge to steal a Pic-i-nic basket.

The legislation that permits children to call authorities began a cycle to circumvent parental authority. If a parent can not give a child a wack on the butt to quell the rebellious spirit, then Government don't you dare fine parents because the child won't go to school or be home on time.

Government you can not have it both ways. We either are able to discipline our children or turn them over to some government run agency to make sure they are in school and off the streets.

I vote to tell the government to butt out and allow parents to draw lines and smack butt when needed.

Cathy · 2 years ago

Oh my god!! I just called the cops on my son and 3 of his friends for stealing fishing poles from boats. (He's 15) Anyhow I found the poles at our house and he admitted to taking them. I flipped out and called cops without thinking. They charged him with 3 counts of grand theft and 3 counts of burglary!! I feel like the worst mother in the world. He is normally a good kid and doesn't give me any problems. I should have handled this myself. I blew it and regret it!!