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In this there is a historical case to be made.
But I would argue that the blood price of that original sin was paid in full between 1861 and 1865, and that the last generation it's chargeable<sup>1<sup> against is not much longer for this world.
<sup>1</sup> Exodus 34:6-7
"Original sin" has a very [i]specific[/i] meaning in Christian theology. Applying it to slavery makes a nice [i]rhetorical[/i] flourish, but otherwise meaningless.
Also, slavery [i]predated[/i] the Republic. One might question how it could be "original" if it was just a continuation of the colonial practices?
Like some of the trolls and mental midgets who wander through here, Obama is long on rhetoric and short on substance. Schadenfreude [i]rocks![/i] :)
[quote]the 1860 U.S. census, nearly four million slaves were held in a total population of just over 12 million in the 15 states in which slavery was still legal.[5] Of all 1,515,605 families in the 15 slave states, 393,967 held slaves (roughly one in four),[6] amounting to 8% of all American families.[[/quote]
[i]Res ipsa loquitur[/i].
I think the free black population of the US is now higher than that.
In the one section of the speech he is talking about the anger within the black community, putting it in perspective, and then goes on to talk about the agnst that many White people feel.
His Words:
That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.
In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race.
Read that last passage VERY CAREFULLY. Most working and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged BY THEIR RACE. Cut down to it's barest essentials, Obama is saying that their problems, and our problems are the fault of the White race. The Black Community are being oppressed by White people, and some White people are being oppressed by White people, but it is the White Race that is doing all the oppressing.
There are other portions of the speech that are disturbing, but this one is glaringly problematic, one that the Press should be all over, one that the Republicans will POUNCE ON IN THE FALL.
Surprise, surprise, surprise! These people don't feel [i]privileged[/i] because of their race.
Next revelation: Water is [i]wet![/i] (Pictures at eleven!)
You are looking through a glass darkly.
[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html]The Speech[/url]
sentence,enlightened one?
Try, read some more.
Easier for you
to be an angry sod,
wallowing in your indignation.
Not much point in wasting your time on the overtly racist bastard who posts here as WOOF.
Associating with Wright is bad enough, but all the leftie dodgers can insist that he didn't know, blah blah blah, but these words came straight from Obama's piehole, and can't be wished or bullshitted away. He really believes what he said; he hates America, and we have no business electing such a divider as President.
Cordially,
You are a pretentious lame.
Seeking cogent topical commentary from a racist ass such as yourself is indeed a waste of time and effort.
Ab asino lanam
Why don't you post another picture, WOOF? You're [i]much[/i] better at comic relief than actually trying to exchange ideas
cites, sin of the nation not applying the equality of the founding documents, to the general biblical significance.
His specific your inference.
How revolting.
cites, sin of the nation not applying the equality of the founding documents, to the general biblical significance.[/quote]Thanks for demonstrating yet [b][i]again[/i][/b], that sloppy reading also leads to sloppy thinking!
I spoke of a [i]specific [/i]biblical significance, not a [i]general[/i] one. For those of you with ADD:
[quote]"Original sin" has a very [b]specific[/b] meaning in Christian theology.[/quote]
What part of "specific" [i]didn't[/i] you understand? In fact, I said [b][i]very[/i][/b] specific! You read that and came up with "general"! You got it [b]exactly backwards[/b]! Is English your first language, by any chance?
[quote]spoke of a specific biblical significance[/quote]
Obama did not.
Your inference begins from a false premise.
Quit playing with the barking racist already. It needs a time out.
Are you with me so far, WOOF, or do you need to rest your over-heated mind?
[quote]"Original sin" has a [b]very specific[/b] meaning in Christian theology.[/quote]Compare and contrast, dullard.
[quote]Your inference begins from a false premise.[/quote]I inferred that you had the ability to read and comprehend. I stand corrected! My premise was that [b]words mean things [/b]and [i]specific[/i] words mean [i]specific[/i] things. Perhaps this is different on [i]your[/i] planet?
Rodney: I do this as a [i]public service[/i] to the [b][i]mentally[/i] underprivileged[/b].
Obama's speech was set in the [b]context[/b] of a defense of his [b]pastor[/b] and of his association with a long time [b]spiritual advisor[/b] and in the [i]historical[/i] context of slavery on this continent. To those wrong and racially divisive remarks, Obama simply added more of his own.
What amazes me, is that Obama [b]admits[/b] that Wright's comments were [b]wrong, divisive and racially charged[/b], and yet liberals [i][b]continue[/b][/i] to come out of the woodwork to try to [b]defend[/b] them, lest, they fear, Obama should be rightfully tarred with the same brush!
There are a lot of historical statements, sayings, and even words (and in some cases un-related homophones) which can get a person in a lot of trouble these days.
Am hoping and praying that people figure this out before it's too late. Obama could possibly do more damage than did Carter.
Do you really want someone who believes the premises of black liberation theology as President of the United States? The reason I posted this was to make the statement that we weren't paying attention to this man's real beliefs.
Answer for yourself whether I want this guy in office. Think real carefully, 'cause it's [i][b]real subtle[/b][/i], subtle like a freight train running over a bunny on a hot summer day.
It's not that hard, 108. Unless you're from Rio Linda.
Save the snark for our barking racist and his fellow travellers...
to blog hall monitor ?
I read it, and I disagree with you on that subject. Clear? I also explained the basis for my disagreement.
Why is my disagreement an issue with you?
First, slavery, jim crow, kkk and all the other heinous acts against black people are not as old as humanity itself. For the record, KKK still exist today. Also the destructive structures that were set up to propagate and maintain these acts stilll persists in our neighborhoods and communities today. Do you know when was the last time a black man was lynched in the United States? If that is as old as humanity itself, then I am sorry but its either you are ignoring the facts, dumb, or plain evil.
The adverse effects of these acts do not impact you when it worked to your favor. People who were born from the generation of slaves experience this "old as humanity itself" evil act in the 21st century.
Do you know how many black folks fought in the American Revolution and had to come back and still be slaves?
How will you feel if you were one of them, or a descend?
Sir, make no mistake. Slavery was America's Original Sin. Until, people like you decide to educate yourself (or tell the facts as is), then I am sorry, but things will be worse; and this time, the tide will turn...
Peace
You're flat wrong. I repeat: slavery has existed since the beginnings of humanity, and today, Muslims are the biggest practitioners of this ancient practice. Save your racist bullshit for someone who doesn't know better.
When was the last time a white person was killed, raped or robbed by a black person?
Are you going to build a racism theory about that? Obama's pastor is spewing hatred toward "white" people in his church; how does that fit into your theory? Or, is that excusable to you? Black racism is OK, but white racism is not? Why the double standard?
Is this how you justify your own racism?
What percentage of the US population owned slaves? Were all the slaveowners "white"?
Educate yourself.
Why do you regard the color of someone's skin as descriptive of who and what they are?