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Say Anything: Nanny State: Teenagers Who Get Pregnant Tend To Watch A Lot Of "Sexy" Television

  • Dang · 1 year ago
    Damn, I agree with you again. That's twice now.

    The other possible correlation that I thought of was, kids who lack supervision are probably more likely to have sex and watch sexy shows. The cause is probably parenting.

    This was a study by Rand, not the Gubment. So why do you say, "Nanny State" in the headline? Are the Republicans trying to censor these sexy shows?
  • di butler · 1 year ago
    What a crock of crap! Teenagers have sex because they can. Teenagers have always had sex, even before t.v. Do they have more because they see it as o.k. because Hollywood chicks have babies without being married? Some. It really just boils down to the fact that pregnancy is more socially acceptable now and teens are horny. One thing that makes teens have more babies is the fact that they know that they can have government assistance. Where is the downside for them when they know they can get free prenatal, free hospitilization. Free baby formula, free innoculations, food stamps, AFDC checks if they don't name the father, possibly free housing, free daycare and free pre-kindergarten? Don't fool yourselves, they aren't worrying about whether your tax dollars go to take care of them. They look at as everybody else does it, so it must be o.k.
  • deadrody · 1 year ago
    Idiotic study, but try this very simple line of thought on for size:

    Kids more willing to engage in sexual activity at younger ages might ALSO be interested in shows that are sexy. Imagine that. Any idea that preventing kids from watching certain TV shows can prevent them from engaging in dangerous or risky behavior is moronic. If, however, that was part of a larger strategy of actually PARENTING the kid, then perhaps you would be onto something.

    Like, for instance, a corollary to my original thought:

    Parents who don't much care what their kids watch, generally don't much care what else their kids do, either.
  • Bike Bubba · 1 year ago
    Even if the study only backs a correlation, it may do a service by reminding parents that what kids do away from the TV is indicated by what they watch on TV, no?

    And I'm not convinced that we we looked closely at the situation, we wouldn't find a causal relationship. No, I'm not predicting that every girl who watches SITC will become a slut, or that every boy who watches "Psycho" will become one.

    Rather, there is a certain power of suggestion that Madison Avenue has been using for decades, and that there is a certain likelihood that when you watch certain things, you are more likely to choose those things.

    Kinda like a Coke commercial might help you choose Coke over Pepsi. If it doesn't work, advertisers owe a lot of money back to their customers.
  • Jerry · 1 year ago
    [quote]Frankly, I think this research is useless. Sure, it found a "link" between teenage pregnancy and sexually-themed television, but let's remember that correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation. [/quote]
    You're wrong, Rob.
    Simple.
    I you don't think what people surround themselves with effects their thinking, you should think more on it.

    My inlaws raised two kids with severe restrictions on TV. And, they are far more polite people, with far stronger attention spans than otherwise would be.
    If you don't think Sexual content in the mix is any problem, how about just telling your young girls that behaving in an overtly sexual maner all the time is normanl, and totally excepted behavior.
    Raise your own that way. Not mine.
  • Kenny · 1 year ago
    [quote]And I'm not convinced that we we looked closely at the situation, we wouldn't find a causal relationship. No, I'm not predicting that every girl who watches SITC will become a slut, or that every boy who watches "Psycho" will become one. [/quote]

    Then it's not causal. It corralative.
  • RebTex · 1 year ago
    Wasn't there a saying that there are about 6 "links" or degrees of seperation between any 2 people?
  • Bike Bubba · 1 year ago
    That would be incorrect, Kenny. There can be "statistical" causes--100% correlation is not required to prove causality. For example, not all smokers get lung cancer, but it is a fact that smoking does cause lung cancer. Same thing with obesity and heart disease, or drinking too much sugar and diabetes. Doesn't happen to everyone, but that doesn't prove that there is no causality.

    Rather, what we have here is an argument "Factor X is likely to increase the likelihood of behavior Y by Z%."

    There are numerous studies, by the way, that do show clear changes in behavior, especially among the young, in communities as they got television for the first time back in the 1950s and 1960s.

    Now I'm not in favor of government making all the rules here, but I am in favor of parents acting on what ought to be obvious; what you watch influences how you will act. Hence, if Junior is a SITC or "Psycho" junkie, maybe Mom and Dad need to take him aside and sketch out some different viewing habits.
  • di butler · 1 year ago
    Teens are more likely to get preggers of their friends are having babies, also. My daughter was in a strict boarding school for 4 yrs. w/o any access to any of this stuff. she had 2 kids and just turned 20. Of the 15 girls on her cheerleading squad, NINE have had at least one baby. FOUR have had TWO. In her grade and the one directly above and one below, 27 girls have had babies already. This is an affluent group of girls, from pretty good families. Over in Alabama, at the school where my friends kids go to school they have had a massive explosion of pregnancy. Does watching sexy shows make more get pregnant? I guess maybe a small few. However, like I said before, seeing real people in Hollywood, and in the music biz getting pregnant and staying single, they say hey, I can do that. They don't think about the fact that people like Nicole Ritchie can afford to buy baby stuff. They just don't worry about it. They know someone will take care of them, or else the government will.
  • eneils Bailey · 1 year ago
    [quote]Teenagers who get pregnant watch a lot of "Sexy" Television.[/quote]

    Goodness gracious, you don't need a doctorate's degree from the Sigmund Freud Institute to figure on this.

    [quote]It is only when parental feelings are ineffective or too ambivalent or when the mother's emotions are temporarily engaged elsewhere that children feel lost.
    [/quote]
    Anna Freud

    Watching on TV, "Sex in The City" with your 13-14 year old daughter and letting her dress like a bowery whore in public may be sending the wrong messgae.....
  • Hungry Bear · 1 year ago
    I don't know about that particular study, but...

    I've always found that there's a really strong coralation between watching Sex and the City, and being being an annoyingly dim person.
  • Cris Cohen · 1 year ago
    Something tells me this still won't inspire HBO to produce a show called "Abstinence in the City".
  • eneils Bailey · 1 year ago
    [quote]watching Sex and the City, and being being an annoyingly dim person.[/quote]

    You got that one right.

    A lot of worn-out middle-age women like to sit around and do these things and vicariously live unfilled lives through their daughters. They go out and shop with their children, try to be hip with their children, and most detrimental, absolve their children of bad behavior because try are convinced they missed something like this in youth.

    The sooner they realize that full-fulling their youthful fantasies and desires versus becoming an adult, and being a responsible parent is more important; the more good kids we will have.
  • eneils Bailey · 1 year ago
    [quote]Something tells me this still won't inspire HBO to produce a show called "Abstinence in the City".[/quote]

    What's wrong with turning that crap "off" if you have kids in the house?
  • eneils Bailey · 1 year ago
    Telling and restricting a kid's access to certain TV programs should not be any more difficult than telling them you don't go find the local "Seven-Eleven" and stick it up, because it is there.
  • SPARKIE ARBUCKLE · 1 year ago
    keep this post away from ole Don Quixote AKA Knee-high-man. this'll make his nanny stating head explode.
  • di butler · 1 year ago
    I can not imagine why any woman would watch this crap. i actually tried to watch it when it first came out because i heard so many women talking about how great it was. If I wanted to hear a bunch of past their prime skanks talking about sex like teenage boys in a locker room, I would just go to the local VFW and sit at one of the "menopause" tables.
  • di butler · 1 year ago
    It helps if you don't tell your kids they can't watch anything, just pick the least offensive and watch it w/ them and tell them why you don't approve of certain parts. my daughter didn't fit in a pigeon-hole. She went to private boarding school, it was very structured. She decided she and her boyfriend were going to get married and have babies,even though she was raised well. I think sometimes you can only teach them so much.