The primary problem I have with this voter ID legislation is the fact that it purports to be intended to prevent voter fraud, yet it completely ignores the voter paper trail issue. Unfortunately, that leads me to conclude that those supporting this voter ID bill are simply pushing legislation that they feel would be beneficial to Republican candidates on two fronts. One, it may suppress Democratic voter turnout and it is also being spun as a means to "strengthen border security and crack down on illegal immigration"...a position the GOP feels will benefit them in November.
Here's my problem. There is little doubt that the GOP has not been motivated to provide effective border security or the means to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants. The failure to enact and enforce measures and methods to combat illegal immigration has been a concession to the business community, which has been the beneficiary of hard working, low wage employees. The system in place for employers to verify employee eligibility to work in the U.S. is a virtual joke and it is so by choice...which makes the current voter ID legislation all the more disingenuous and wholly political.
Sadly, it appears that the GOP doesn't see any advantage to including these paper trail provisions. It is situations of this nature that lead to voter cynicism in their elected officials as well as the entire political process. Ironically, while we are in the process of exporting democracy to other regions of the world, we have U.S. politicians that prefer to manipulate our democracy for partisan advantage. This and other inconsistencies in the application of democracy simply undermine the potential for other nations to believe that the United States is actually an agent for democratic principles.
The primary problem I have with this voter ID legislation is the fact that it purports to be intended to prevent voter fraud, yet it completely ignores the voter paper trail issue.
That's pretty stupid. This is about voter ID, not about the entire voting system.
I would agree that we should have paper trails. However I don't recall that conversation when we had mechanical machines 30 years ago.
The point is that we need voter ID and shame on the Democrats for voting for fraud.
Now if you want to bring up a paper trail I'll support you.
docdave
· 3 years ago
The point is that we need voter ID and shame on the Democrats for voting for fraud Amen, whistler, that's their (the Democrats) real agenda. You don't believe that, look at the last governors race in Washington.
Bat One
· 3 years ago
That "insurmountable burden" the Democrats are braying about is the very same one required by law to buy beer, cigarettes, and to cash checks, including those commercial check cashing establishments favored by the Democrats' latest group of imagined victims.
To suggest that the requirement for helping to choose those who represent us in government should be any less than what is required to buy a pack of Marlboros or a sixpack of Budweiser is just plain stupid.
robert108
· 3 years ago
What good is a "paper trail" if you can't ID the voters in the first place? The "paper trail" doesn't show if they are legal voters or not. Let's ensure legal voters only first, then worry about how they voted.
The Whistler
· 3 years ago
Does this bill stipulate that voter ID's-only are free to the voters. That would avoid a poll-tax challenge.
Robert: We've have some safe-guards to an accurate count. I would like to see a paper trail but you're exactly right we need to manage the front end now.
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Here's my problem. There is little doubt that the GOP has not been motivated to provide effective border security or the means to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants. The failure to enact and enforce measures and methods to combat illegal immigration has been a concession to the business community, which has been the beneficiary of hard working, low wage employees. The system in place for employers to verify employee eligibility to work in the U.S. is a virtual joke and it is so by choice...which makes the current voter ID legislation all the more disingenuous and wholly political.
Sadly, it appears that the GOP doesn't see any advantage to including these paper trail provisions. It is situations of this nature that lead to voter cynicism in their elected officials as well as the entire political process. Ironically, while we are in the process of exporting democracy to other regions of the world, we have U.S. politicians that prefer to manipulate our democracy for partisan advantage. This and other inconsistencies in the application of democracy simply undermine the potential for other nations to believe that the United States is actually an agent for democratic principles.
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That's pretty stupid. This is about voter ID, not about the entire voting system.
I would agree that we should have paper trails. However I don't recall that conversation when we had mechanical machines 30 years ago.
The point is that we need voter ID and shame on the Democrats for voting for fraud.
Now if you want to bring up a paper trail I'll support you.
Amen, whistler, that's their (the Democrats) real agenda. You don't believe that, look at the last governors race in Washington.
To suggest that the requirement for helping to choose those who represent us in government should be any less than what is required to buy a pack of Marlboros or a sixpack of Budweiser is just plain stupid.
Robert: We've have some safe-guards to an accurate count. I would like to see a paper trail but you're exactly right we need to manage the front end now.