an we aim the last sentence of this directly at his ass?
limeshurbet
· 5 years ago
If anyone wants to get together, pick up Maher, and drop his stupid, self-centered, coddled, leftist celebrity ass off in downtown Tehran so he can see a REAL sham democracy, I'll but the ticket.
holla
· 5 years ago
im not going to read the interview, but i can tell you that he's right - america isn't a democracy. it's a republic. if you think that we live in a democracy, then your schooling failed you miserably.
that said, i'm not complaining. i don't want a democracy. the left does. the stupid people do. please tell me you're not one of those stupid people.
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
I'd say that America falls under that definition. A lot of votes are straight popular votes. We also have the electoral college where each state elects delegates to go to Washington and vote for the President. Either way, America is a democray. So no, my schooling didn't fail me at all.
Rob
· 5 years ago
Whatever. Think what you want. The definition I use for democracy includes America. We elect officials, they represent us in government. Period. That's what a democracy is.
If you have some other definition feel free to use it. I still think its a dumb thing to call somebody stupid over.
Rob
· 5 years ago
Yes, America is a representative republic. Something that falls under the definition of democracy. If a country elects officials to represent them in government that country is, without equivocation, a democracy.
If calling it something else turns your crank then fine. Doesn't bother me a lick. Really, its a rather stupid thing to argue about. Its like you coming here and calling me stupid because I called Bob Dylan and rock singer instead of a folk singer.
Just chill out a little bit.
holla
· 5 years ago
you're wrong. it isn't a simple matter of calling it something different.
go read the federalist papers. the founders explicitly chose to not have a democracy. they called democracies some of the worst spectacles of an attempt at governing in the history of the world.
your dylan example is misguided. what you're really doing is saying that aerosmith is a rap group because they collaborated with run dmc on a rap version of "walk this way." that our republic contains an element that democracies also contain does not make it a democracy, any more than putting a toyota part into a chevy makes the whole car "technically" a chevy.
holla
· 5 years ago
yes, it did fail you, and the fact that even make that argument is further proof.
it is a "REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC"
"well, technically, i'd say it falls under this dictionary definition, blah blah blah." how loosey-goosey of you. really, i'm surprised that you're not voting for kerry.
before you start posting definitions in support of a position that you clearly have no idea about, try doing a little research.
Rob
· 5 years ago
Actually, I didn't say that you specifically called me stupid. I said that this issue would "be a dumb thing to call someone stupid over."
Really, I think you're making a mountain over a molehill. I'm quite surprised that I've wasted this much of my time even responding to you about this.
You have your definition of democracy, I have mine. There is room for interpretation on this issue and clearly you and I are interpreting it differently. You've stated your case and points (rather untactfully I might add, but whatever) and I've respectfully disagreed. Since it doesn't seem like either of us is going to agree with the other I really don't see the point in discussing it further.
holla
· 5 years ago
there you go again, playing all loosey-goosey with words, this time my words.
where did i call you stupid for it? i said that your schooling failed you, and i said that stupid people want a democracy. there is a difference between these statements:
"stupid people call it a democracy" (which you seem to think i said)
and
"stupid people want a democracy" (which is what i did say.
Surviving a war
· 3 years ago
I agree with alot of maher's arguments but am adamantly against alot of his views.
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that said, i'm not complaining. i don't want a democracy. the left does. the stupid people do. please tell me you're not one of those stupid people.
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
I'd say that America falls under that definition. A lot of votes are straight popular votes. We also have the electoral college where each state elects delegates to go to Washington and vote for the President. Either way, America is a democray. So no, my schooling didn't fail me at all.
If you have some other definition feel free to use it. I still think its a dumb thing to call somebody stupid over.
If calling it something else turns your crank then fine. Doesn't bother me a lick. Really, its a rather stupid thing to argue about. Its like you coming here and calling me stupid because I called Bob Dylan and rock singer instead of a folk singer.
Just chill out a little bit.
go read the federalist papers. the founders explicitly chose to not have a democracy. they called democracies some of the worst spectacles of an attempt at governing in the history of the world.
some info for you:
http://www.banned-books.com/truth-seeker/1994archive/121_3/ts213d.html
your dylan example is misguided. what you're really doing is saying that aerosmith is a rap group because they collaborated with run dmc on a rap version of "walk this way." that our republic contains an element that democracies also contain does not make it a democracy, any more than putting a toyota part into a chevy makes the whole car "technically" a chevy.
it is a "REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC"
"well, technically, i'd say it falls under this dictionary definition, blah blah blah." how loosey-goosey of you. really, i'm surprised that you're not voting for kerry.
before you start posting definitions in support of a position that you clearly have no idea about, try doing a little research.
Really, I think you're making a mountain over a molehill. I'm quite surprised that I've wasted this much of my time even responding to you about this.
You have your definition of democracy, I have mine. There is room for interpretation on this issue and clearly you and I are interpreting it differently. You've stated your case and points (rather untactfully I might add, but whatever) and I've respectfully disagreed. Since it doesn't seem like either of us is going to agree with the other I really don't see the point in discussing it further.
where did i call you stupid for it? i said that your schooling failed you, and i said that stupid people want a democracy. there is a difference between these statements:
"stupid people call it a democracy" (which you seem to think i said)
and
"stupid people want a democracy" (which is what i did say.