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Hading over emails is an admission of possession. Possession of stolen property is a crime.
Think about it.
Think about it. [/quote]"Think about it"- something drunken squirrel obviously [i]didn't[/i] do! News media receive things all the time ([b]the Pentagon papers[/b] come to mind) that were stolen or might otherwise aid the police in a criminal investigation: ransom demands, the Unibomber's screed, etc.
The likelihood of them being charged with "possession of stolen property" is about as likely as a drunken squirrel being chosen as Pope. [i]More[/i] likely to be charged with obstruction for not turning over clearly what doesn't belong to them!
Careful ere you go the way of The One and his Cyber Brownshirt army.
It is two different things, you are talking about impeding a federal investigation as opposed to squashing free speech because you don't like the message. These Hacker(s) have committed a federal crime and they need to pay for it. The hackers should go to jail for a very long time.
NOBAMA's brownshirted tactics are also against the first ammendment. You can not just hack into someone's computer and put their info on line that is a crime it is not protected under the first ammendment. Squashing right wing talk radio because you don't like the message is intolerant and a violation of the first ammendment.
If I was the attorney for the AP I would tell the Secret Service to go get a warrant. The press is not the lapdog of the government.
Me thinks that is how the secret service is going to procede.
I was responding to Proof who seemed to want some retribution rather than justice.
This is very much worthy of a smackdown. If the AP claims the identity theft and terrorizing for politics was all above board and stonewalls, then warrant and more charges are in order. Usually if an underling of an organization commits a crime the organization outs the underling. MY company works that way.
My guess is yes. And all info in those e-mails would have been kept private.
Hannitized, even you must agree this was a dispicable act.
Fight on the issues and let the best candidate win.
No, he must not. If republicans are on the recieving end they either deserved it, started it or it's a trumped up non-issue.
(I really like the squirrel graphic though.)
Fly,
Please note, however, that it is ellinas' rodent that actually has balls!
[quote]It is two different things, you are talking about impeding a federal investigation as opposed to squashing free speech because you don't like the message.[/quote]goon said it well. This would not be squashing free speech for political purposes, this would be using a big enough stick to get the cooperation of those who might want to obstruct justice.
Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggy!" while reaching for the nearest rock. If AP wants to stand between the Secret Service and the hackers, the threat of a big enough stick (or rock) should work more quickly than the threat of a small one. That's all I was saying.
I don't know. Is Sarah Palin being charged with obstruction by trying to get the investigation she previously welcomed by the bi-partisan group before the McCain camp encouraged her to shut down?
I doubt the AP will admit to having anything of importance.
I doubt any hacker sophisticated enough to get into Palin's email account and do it so visibly did it from his own IP.
If any IP has been identified, it probably belongs to a hacked computer that some guy got into through a unsecured router.
The AP probably doesn't have any information that can't be found off the internet already. They are probably claiming they have nothing of value or special.
The hackers service provider said he carelessly left all kinds of backtrack worthy details in the screen capture and that he would track down the ne'er do well and turn him over once authorities asked. This was a breach of law and service contract and provider was less than enthused.
[quote]Please note, however, that it is ellinas' rodent that actually has balls! [/quote]
Hanni has great, bouncing tail and a penchant for alcohol. ellinas squirrel reminds me of Hillary.
Hanni:
"But ... but ... TAZER-GATE!"
I was already convinced. She had me at "Fire the bastard."
You really are willing to turn a blind eye to political espionage? This was the kind of thing Liddy got in trouble for way back when. It's ok now?
I will believe it when I see it. Hackers can take over another persons computer remotely and then use it to hack another computer. Ever heard of go-to-my PC? How do you think that software works exactly?
[quote]This was a breach of law and service contract and provider was less than enthused. [/quote]
Huh?
What makes you say that? I never even gave my opinion on the matter. I merely commented on the AP's behavior and the likelihood of catching the hacker.
I doubt this is political. It's either a kid or some idiot. The some of most sophisticated hacks into very secure environments are performed by kids between the age of 13-22.
What do you expect me to say Fly?
[quote]I doubt[/quote]
[quote]I doubt[/quote]
[quote]probably doesn't [/quote]
[quote] probably claiming [/quote]
[quote]I will believe it when I see it. [/quote]
[quote]I never even gave my opinion on the matter[/quote]
Ever notice the squirrel takes a [b]lot of words[/b] and a [b]lot of posts[/b] to tell us what [b]he doesn't know?[/b]
Heh.